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	<title>Comments on: MULTISITE CHURCHES: Two Things No One Seems To Have Noticed</title>
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		<title>By: aarongable</title>
		<link>http://larryosbornelive.com/2009/03/02/multisite-churches-two-things-no-one-seems-to-have-noticed/#comment-223</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t agree with you more. 

One aspect of a &#039;geographic&#039; video venue I experienced was the contrast of a localized mission verses duplication of the mothership. It seemed that the mission of the video venue was to duplicate the success of the &quot;mothership&quot; and the campus pastor played the role of &#039;manager&#039; of the vision. What was missing in the video venue was the driving force of a local visionary to reach the local community. 

The video venue did reach the 200 attendance mark, but will probably not grow beyond that without more autonomy in leadership, mission, and vision. I think this question should have been asked: &quot;How can people be reached most effectively in that &#039;geographic&#039; community?&quot; verses &quot;How can we duplicate the &#039;mothership&#039; in another location?&quot; The answers are sometimes different. Franchising the church has some huge pluses, but I believe new church start ups have a greater risk/reward potential on the local level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t agree with you more. </p>
<p>One aspect of a &#8216;geographic&#8217; video venue I experienced was the contrast of a localized mission verses duplication of the mothership. It seemed that the mission of the video venue was to duplicate the success of the &#8220;mothership&#8221; and the campus pastor played the role of &#8216;manager&#8217; of the vision. What was missing in the video venue was the driving force of a local visionary to reach the local community. </p>
<p>The video venue did reach the 200 attendance mark, but will probably not grow beyond that without more autonomy in leadership, mission, and vision. I think this question should have been asked: &#8220;How can people be reached most effectively in that &#8216;geographic&#8217; community?&#8221; verses &#8220;How can we duplicate the &#8216;mothership&#8217; in another location?&#8221; The answers are sometimes different. Franchising the church has some huge pluses, but I believe new church start ups have a greater risk/reward potential on the local level.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Curlee</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seeing how overall multi-site is new for most churches and video-venues is a relatively new way of ministry I think it will play out over the next few years as to size limitations.

Even most of the mega-churches didn&#039;t just spring up &quot;huge&quot; overnight.  I think we are just hitting our stride and beginning to understand what we are doing more and more.  And these so called barriers are going to be smashed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing how overall multi-site is new for most churches and video-venues is a relatively new way of ministry I think it will play out over the next few years as to size limitations.</p>
<p>Even most of the mega-churches didn&#8217;t just spring up &#8220;huge&#8221; overnight.  I think we are just hitting our stride and beginning to understand what we are doing more and more.  And these so called barriers are going to be smashed.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think first of all that you wrote this very well considering how hot of a topic this is in the church world.  I think your observations are correct but disagree with the the viewpoint on the future - I think we will be very surprised how much relational interaction is going to be done via video in all areas of our lives as the equipment costs continue to go down and as culture continues to be more concerned with convenience.  Thank you for your thoughts - it was fun thinking about this with you...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think first of all that you wrote this very well considering how hot of a topic this is in the church world.  I think your observations are correct but disagree with the the viewpoint on the future &#8211; I think we will be very surprised how much relational interaction is going to be done via video in all areas of our lives as the equipment costs continue to go down and as culture continues to be more concerned with convenience.  Thank you for your thoughts &#8211; it was fun thinking about this with you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Heredes</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Larry .. i really see it playing out different --   

I must agree with Troy ... it is very difficult to call it this early in the game ... and i dont believe the &quot;strongest proponents and harshest critics of video venues and the multisite movement seem to have missed&quot; anything. They are pushing, leading and learning as they go ... and have succeeded so far. 

We are entering a generation were Video Communication is a &quot;non-issue&quot; - If we are not careful , we&#039;ll cast a vision that will immediately create and uphold a tradition. (live teaching vs. video teaching)

I don&#039;t believe it replaces church planting or local ministries... but it does have the potential to be the growing dominant force in reaching people.... (past the 1000&#039;s and as effective as a church plant or other ministry as we have already seen) 

......the best and biggest days of multisite are yet to come. just wait till the teenage years.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry .. i really see it playing out different &#8212;   </p>
<p>I must agree with Troy &#8230; it is very difficult to call it this early in the game &#8230; and i dont believe the &#8220;strongest proponents and harshest critics of video venues and the multisite movement seem to have missed&#8221; anything. They are pushing, leading and learning as they go &#8230; and have succeeded so far. </p>
<p>We are entering a generation were Video Communication is a &#8220;non-issue&#8221; &#8211; If we are not careful , we&#8217;ll cast a vision that will immediately create and uphold a tradition. (live teaching vs. video teaching)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe it replaces church planting or local ministries&#8230; but it does have the potential to be the growing dominant force in reaching people&#8230;. (past the 1000&#8242;s and as effective as a church plant or other ministry as we have already seen) </p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;the best and biggest days of multisite are yet to come. just wait till the teenage years.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While there may not be many multi-sites with several large campuses today, there are some. I think it has more to do with the culture catching up with the technolodgy than it does an attendance cieling. 
Ten years ago there were just a handful of mega churches and today there are thousands. Give it a few years and the same thing will happen on multi-site campuses.
To say there will never be multi-site churches with several large campuses, sounds a lot like what people use to say about the 4 min. mile being impossible until Roger Bannister ran one and thousands followed.
Before we limit the potential of multi-site campuses to reach the masses lets give it a little time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there may not be many multi-sites with several large campuses today, there are some. I think it has more to do with the culture catching up with the technolodgy than it does an attendance cieling.<br />
Ten years ago there were just a handful of mega churches and today there are thousands. Give it a few years and the same thing will happen on multi-site campuses.<br />
To say there will never be multi-site churches with several large campuses, sounds a lot like what people use to say about the 4 min. mile being impossible until Roger Bannister ran one and thousands followed.<br />
Before we limit the potential of multi-site campuses to reach the masses lets give it a little time.</p>
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		<title>By: tonymccollum.com &#124; Multi-Site Limitations</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tonymccollum.com &#124; Multi-Site Limitations]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] found this article but multi-site guru, Larry Osborne, to be very interesting.  I&#8217;m all for multi-site churches [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] found this article but multi-site guru, Larry Osborne, to be very interesting.  I&#8217;m all for multi-site churches [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Steven Bonenberger</title>
		<link>http://larryosbornelive.com/2009/03/02/multisite-churches-two-things-no-one-seems-to-have-noticed/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle Steven Bonenberger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Larry, your insight is spot on.  This was really helpful to me in the context of the video venue I currently serve in at Crystal Cathedral.  Thank you for sharing.  Oh ya.  And I miss you all at North Coast.  NCC will always be my home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, your insight is spot on.  This was really helpful to me in the context of the video venue I currently serve in at Crystal Cathedral.  Thank you for sharing.  Oh ya.  And I miss you all at North Coast.  NCC will always be my home.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry  Osborne</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Willy 
You&#039;re right.  Most multisites pastors aren&#039;t trying to build a bunch of mega-venues. They just want to reach people and serve them. And many understand the power of smaller localized venues to be more intimate and community focused.

I’m simply pointing out that the assumption from both the proponents and the critics of multisite churches that large offsite (or multisite) venues are inevitable is probably not true – and the same for the assumption that venues can be widely franchised across the country by a high profile pastor who seeks to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willy<br />
You&#8217;re right.  Most multisites pastors aren&#8217;t trying to build a bunch of mega-venues. They just want to reach people and serve them. And many understand the power of smaller localized venues to be more intimate and community focused.</p>
<p>I’m simply pointing out that the assumption from both the proponents and the critics of multisite churches that large offsite (or multisite) venues are inevitable is probably not true – and the same for the assumption that venues can be widely franchised across the country by a high profile pastor who seeks to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: willymaxwell</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pastor Larry,

Thank you for your comments, I agree with much of what you said. There is a hands-on component that is lacking, even with the &quot;best&quot; campus pastors on-site.  

This got me thinking though, are there many who desire their video-venues to be &quot;mega-venues?&quot;  One of our main purposes for video-venues, is to create small, more intimate gatherings, where community can be fostered and developed.  Of course we want growth (numerical) but the overall goal isn&#039;t numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor Larry,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments, I agree with much of what you said. There is a hands-on component that is lacking, even with the &#8220;best&#8221; campus pastors on-site.  </p>
<p>This got me thinking though, are there many who desire their video-venues to be &#8220;mega-venues?&#8221;  One of our main purposes for video-venues, is to create small, more intimate gatherings, where community can be fostered and developed.  Of course we want growth (numerical) but the overall goal isn&#8217;t numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Pastor Larry for clearing the air! As far as I know, we the only church doing video venues in the state of Alaska. This presents both a unique opportunity and many challenges. We have chosen to not pursue the numbers game but create a place where transformation can take place in smaller venues, though fully equipped and staffed for what a venue requires for both Live and delayed video. Our Venue Leads are trained and cary out many &quot;hands on&quot; pastoral duties. One of the most exciting things to come out of our venues is a renewed desire to pursue ministry and plant churches. Most importantly, nothing will ever replace the local pastor/shepherd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Pastor Larry for clearing the air! As far as I know, we the only church doing video venues in the state of Alaska. This presents both a unique opportunity and many challenges. We have chosen to not pursue the numbers game but create a place where transformation can take place in smaller venues, though fully equipped and staffed for what a venue requires for both Live and delayed video. Our Venue Leads are trained and cary out many &#8220;hands on&#8221; pastoral duties. One of the most exciting things to come out of our venues is a renewed desire to pursue ministry and plant churches. Most importantly, nothing will ever replace the local pastor/shepherd.</p>
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